in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
Yes but, no but, yes but, no but, yes, but, but.... It don't matter WHAT you show the mind control is too strong to accept it.
IF that line had the word armageddon in it, you would STILL be getting the SAME response! yes but, no but, yes but, but, but.
Until you are ready to analyse your beliefs HONESTLY ConcernedJW, you will NEVER come to an accurate knowledge of truth. And that is what's important right, ....TRUTH?
...or so i used to think.. what is worship?.
not sitting listening to wtb$ corporation propoganda which is more a sales seminar than worship.. not giving talks, sermons or demonstrations designed to make you better sales persons in field misery for the benefit of your reputation when the elders jusde you.. not constantly being hypnotized to believe i am not good enough and must do more or my imaginary friend in the sky will lovingly kill me soon (terms and conditions apply and are subject to 'overlapping').
not answering from a hi-lited piece of litter-trash at indoctrination sessions designed to make you better recruiters so the gb can have power and money.. if i were god i wouldn't consider 7.5million sheeple obeying 7 power trippers in brooklyn worship to me.....idoliary, yes.
I've brought this subject up myself that there is no worship at the meetings or assemblies. The answer I got was the same, it's the songs and prayers that are part of worship.
Well the songs are worse than ever and mostly agrandising the GB and obedience and the prayers are often the same format of asking for blessing on the GB. No worship in either for 99% of the time. For a God who demands exclusive devotion he sure must be pissed that the GB is higher up the devotional scale than His own Son Jesus!
in the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/213523/1/feeling-a-bit-alienated, concerned jw wrote:.
mistakes will happen.
concerned jw, if mistakes will happen, i was wondering what mistakes you feel the jw organization is currently making?
I would be more worried if they didn't allow for mistakes to be corrected when it is revealed that they are incorrect biblically.
What, like 607 bce? They have known that is bogus since at least 1977 when they received C.O.Jonsons treatise on the subject, if not before then. But they will NEVER change it until at least 2035 when all hopes of linking ANYTHING to 1914 cease to be remotely possible in the minds of the rank and file JWs and they will lose their claimed authority.
hello all jwn .
so glad to have that over with- it was surreal to walk in the kh after two years...it is just a building to me now (not "jehovah's house").
i must say that now i'm on the outside...what a boring sad building- the people were not joyful and friendly (just older and fatter than i remember)- i got the nervous stares and shaky "hi" when i looked at all of them and said hello.. my mom was sitting all by herself in the front row of the hall...i went and sat by her side.
Sorry for your loss and agro CHG.
WTF was all the fuss about that poem!? ...Was it your JW familly that put the stop on it or the "brother" doing the talk? Not much human kindness in this cult is there. You will know them by their works etc etc......
didn't know if this has been addressed before , but it's kinda interesting.
when we were witnesses we were always told,oh!
don't look at horoscopes or read anything about your sign because it's demonized !
I never believed in this stuff, ... being a born in JW with a logical analytical mind how could I? I mean come on....
But I have read my horoscope from time to time (shock horror!) and it is totally true that many are vague ramblings that could fit anyone and are easily dismissed as such.
However about two years ago reading an end of year supplement that came with Daily Telegraph (i think) that gave next years forcast as well as full page detailed personality descriptions of each sign.
Well the page on me being a Scorpio was me EXACTLY. It freaked me out it was so right... I read the others for comparison and NONE other fitted me!
Things that make you go hmmmmm....
Invisble ink? Demon possessed flow chart? Does it burn if you hold a flame to it? Is that why you can't show it because you have burnt it to a cinder?... Quick show us the possessed chart FFS!!
i have just skimmed it, but the parts i've read are laughable!
they talk about how "complete control" is unscriptural and "usually backfires!
" i guess that doesn't apply to the gb controlling it's jw subjects.
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i've been wondering about this for some time.
if there are 60,000+ registered users on here, what percentage are actual non-dfed or non-daed witnesses?
if it was 1/3, that would be over 20,000 active/inactive witnesses that post and read these pages- and that's huge.
Fading (no meetings etc), behaving myself trying to stay off the radar, so I dont get DF or DA.
However I might be very much ON radar shortly as will soon be having some discussions with persons who could easily do me harm, will have to see which way the wind blows and how brain washed they are and the outcomes will depend on those sort of factors.
as jehovahs witnesses we were taught that the truth (belief) unifies every aspect of our lives and is of paramount importance.
are other like religions like this also?
do they emphasize belief to the same extent?.
How is challenging 607 an attack on the bible exactly? Upon examination the bible fits perfectly within the established 587 chronology and fails miserably with the 607 chronology.
I don't want to hijack this thread into another 607 debate as there's plenty of those already on this board for you to look at, but i find your easy dismissal of anything contrary to your opinion as eerily reminiscent of my own thought processes before I did my own research into my religion of birth. There was no bigotry in my post to you either it was merely trying to make you see the value of actually thinking.
You sound a bit like DJeggnog tbh....
i just received my brand new greek bible:.
= the holy scriptures - new world translation.
why bother?
How do the translations work, are they all FROM the current English NWT?
